Hi Rabbi F,
I told my ex-husband M on Saturday that I am thinking of converting
to Judaism. He looked at me and said, "I'm not anti-semitic, Jen."
He was actually really supportive of it, said it is good that the kids
are exposed to lots of different ideas, and we agreed that they need
to make decisions when they are adults.
He was a little concerned about "the repudiation of Christ," but I
assured him that it just doesn't come up.
He mentioned that Sam at age 13 would be old enough for First
Communion, and I said, "Also Bar Mitzvah," so he laughed and said,
"How about a birthday party?"
I think it would be possible for Sam to do something that could
acknowledge what he is being taught at that time. There is time to
plan, time to think about it.
I read The Chosen yesterday. It was very good, and Dereck is bringing
home The Promise for me. I am starting to understand more and more of
the history of the Jewish people. Wow, you can't say, "I'm converting
to Judaism," any more than you could say, "I'm converting to
Christianity."
Which branch?
I asked Dereck, "How did the hasidim go from opposing the Zionist
movement to controlling everything in Israel?"
He just shrugged.
I can see now why you want me to read more about the history before we
talk further.
I had a little bit of a crisis yesterday because I thought, "I'm not
yet at the point at which it is crucial to me that the boys become
Jewish. What's the point of converting if that isn't the goal, to
raise Jewish children? What kind of a Jew are you?"
And the more I read about the history, the more I think it is
necessary to raise children who will be Jews-- so maybe it's not that
I don't find it important, but that I despair that if I can't have
them convert now that maybe they won't do it as adults.
But then I talked to Dereck and he said, "Look, there are reasons why
it's important personally to you, and also, the boys will have no
chance at becoming Jewish if you don't."
M said something about the Newman Center starting up its classes
again on Wednesday nights (when I have the kids), but I can't take
them to that. You have to draw lines. I can't actively promote their
activity in another religion. He also said that while Catholicism
might be right for him, he doesn't know if he can impose it on the
boys. But he doesn't really like Timber Ridge (the outreach Church he
takes them to) anymore either.
We actually had a very decent chat. I emphasized the Bible stories,
loving G-d, and living an ethical life, and he nodded and agreed that
there are a lot of great stories in the Old Testament (and he added
that there are some crazy things too, and I said, "Oh, come on, look
at Paul! You are no lover of Paul, M." And he isn't-- he hates
Paul. He agreed, and said that is one of his main problems with
Catholicism-- it's based so strongly on Paul's teachings.
He started out by saying, "Oh, Jen, we're not Jews," But I told him I
want a heritage and a tradition to hand down to the boys. And he
concluded the conversation by saying it sounds like a good fit [for
me]. He even knew the name of Reform Judaism, though I don't know how
much he knows about Judaism, period.
But he wasn't opposed. Phew!
I don't know yet what he will say to the boys about it. I guess I'll
find out. But at least it's out in the open now. I told him that our
oldest boy is interested in learning Hebrew and he said, "I'd rather
have him learn French." Oh well. And I told him about our Shabbat
services and blintzes on Shavuot.
So, I'm now reading The Making of the Modern Jew by Steinberg (Chaim
Potok loves Steinberg, it turns out).
L'Shalom,
Jen
I told my ex-husband M on Saturday that I am thinking of converting
to Judaism. He looked at me and said, "I'm not anti-semitic, Jen."
He was actually really supportive of it, said it is good that the kids
are exposed to lots of different ideas, and we agreed that they need
to make decisions when they are adults.
He was a little concerned about "the repudiation of Christ," but I
assured him that it just doesn't come up.
He mentioned that Sam at age 13 would be old enough for First
Communion, and I said, "Also Bar Mitzvah," so he laughed and said,
"How about a birthday party?"
I think it would be possible for Sam to do something that could
acknowledge what he is being taught at that time. There is time to
plan, time to think about it.
I read The Chosen yesterday. It was very good, and Dereck is bringing
home The Promise for me. I am starting to understand more and more of
the history of the Jewish people. Wow, you can't say, "I'm converting
to Judaism," any more than you could say, "I'm converting to
Christianity."
Which branch?
I asked Dereck, "How did the hasidim go from opposing the Zionist
movement to controlling everything in Israel?"
He just shrugged.
I can see now why you want me to read more about the history before we
talk further.
I had a little bit of a crisis yesterday because I thought, "I'm not
yet at the point at which it is crucial to me that the boys become
Jewish. What's the point of converting if that isn't the goal, to
raise Jewish children? What kind of a Jew are you?"
And the more I read about the history, the more I think it is
necessary to raise children who will be Jews-- so maybe it's not that
I don't find it important, but that I despair that if I can't have
them convert now that maybe they won't do it as adults.
But then I talked to Dereck and he said, "Look, there are reasons why
it's important personally to you, and also, the boys will have no
chance at becoming Jewish if you don't."
M said something about the Newman Center starting up its classes
again on Wednesday nights (when I have the kids), but I can't take
them to that. You have to draw lines. I can't actively promote their
activity in another religion. He also said that while Catholicism
might be right for him, he doesn't know if he can impose it on the
boys. But he doesn't really like Timber Ridge (the outreach Church he
takes them to) anymore either.
We actually had a very decent chat. I emphasized the Bible stories,
loving G-d, and living an ethical life, and he nodded and agreed that
there are a lot of great stories in the Old Testament (and he added
that there are some crazy things too, and I said, "Oh, come on, look
at Paul! You are no lover of Paul, M." And he isn't-- he hates
Paul. He agreed, and said that is one of his main problems with
Catholicism-- it's based so strongly on Paul's teachings.
He started out by saying, "Oh, Jen, we're not Jews," But I told him I
want a heritage and a tradition to hand down to the boys. And he
concluded the conversation by saying it sounds like a good fit [for
me]. He even knew the name of Reform Judaism, though I don't know how
much he knows about Judaism, period.
But he wasn't opposed. Phew!
I don't know yet what he will say to the boys about it. I guess I'll
find out. But at least it's out in the open now. I told him that our
oldest boy is interested in learning Hebrew and he said, "I'd rather
have him learn French." Oh well. And I told him about our Shabbat
services and blintzes on Shavuot.
So, I'm now reading The Making of the Modern Jew by Steinberg (Chaim
Potok loves Steinberg, it turns out).
L'Shalom,
Jen
Hi Jen!
ReplyDeleteWhen I started the conversion process, my son was 9 and had just had first communion/confirmation in the second grade. I didn't think I had the right to ask that my son convert with me. My husband (who did not convert) and I decided to raise him in "both."
At the mikveh/bet dein, one of the rabbis asked me what we planned to do with Evan. I responded that we planned to raise him with awareness of both traditions.
And then he had it out with me :)
He pointed out that I made decisions for my son all the time. I decided that he would attend school, I decided that he would brush his teeth and eat healthy meals. I decided what activities he participated in and made him clean his room. So, he asked, why was it so hard to make this decision?
He said he really didn't care if we raised Evan as a Jew or as a Catholic but his point was that we needed to make a decision one way or the other. The result if we didn't, he said, was to raise a child who didn't feel grounded...who searched...and who would end up, like me, having a hard time feeling a part of anything.
So, we discussed it and I really felt that I wanted Evan to be a Jew. But I also knew that my husband's Catholic family wouldn't be too keen on it.
In the end though, we decided Evan would be a Jew. We enrolled him in Religious School and he'll take Hebrew this year. My husband's family didn't say a word...my nieces are Jewish (his twin's kids) so it's not SO unusual.
The end result is we have a Jewish home. My husband worries as much as I do about getting to services and having the candles lit on Fridays by the proper time. Our lives are ruled by the Jewish calendar and to tell you the truth, we LOVE it. I strongly expect my husband to eventually convert.
Rabbi Gibson was right...making the decision simplified things more than we imagined. We thought Evan could make the choice later and indeed, he can, when he is old enough but until then he will have a strong Jewish background and feel VERY Jewish. The choices he makes about religion as an adult will be like all the other things he chooses.
I am not encouraging you to do one thing or the other...just offering some advice in hindsight as you make your decision :)
Z
Hi, I found you from Z's blog. I really liked "My Name is Asher Lev." It's a recommend :)
ReplyDeleteI just bought My Name is Asher Lev-- thanks for the recommend!
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